iLive: digitale Trim-Funktion

    Habe eine Frage bezgl. digitalem Trim eines Eingangssignal.

    Ich route mir einen physikalischen Eingang auf 3 Channelsrips. In diesem Fall Leadvocals: 1x Normal, 1x Old Radio/Telefonsound 1x mit Vocaldoubler als Insert.

    Nun wirkt sich der Gain des physik. Einganges auf alle 3 Strips aus. Das führt bei dem EQ-ten Phone-Kanal und beim Vocaldoubler zu viel zu viel Pegel im Gegensatz zum normalen Kanal. Einmal durch die krasse EQ-Einstellung im Phone-Kanal, einmal durch den Pegel, den der Vocaldoubler im Insert mit sich bringt.

    Gibt es die Möglichkeit einen Channelstrip nach dem analogen Gain noch digital zu trimmen? Ich habe nichts gefunden, lediglich dass bei Digitaleingängen solch ein Trim vorhanden ist. Das wäre doch auch von Interesse, wenn ich einen Kanal virtuell splitten möchte, um unterschiedliche EQ-Einstellungen für den Monitor zu realisieren.

    Der digitale Trim ist in der Software-Version 1.5 enthalten, die in den nächsten ein bis 3 Wochen veröffentlicht werden soll. Somit "gainst" du dann den Eingang, danach arbeiten die virtuellen Kanäle, Splitkanäle und Kanäle im Monitorpult nur noch mit dem Trim.

    Hallo, hier mal einige Infos zu der Wunderfirmware 1.5:

    Firmware Version 1.5 - New Features

    Preamp sharing Trim option

    The PREAMP screen adds
    a new Trim control with +/-24dB range. You now have the option
    to choose to present either the preamp controls (Gain, Pad, 48V,
    Polarity) or trim controls (Trim, Polarity) on the Surface PREAMP
    section.
    This lets both FOH and Monitor engineers work with their own
    independent trim controls once the Gain has been set. Of course
    the engineer who owns the preamp can go to the PREAMP
    screen to adjust the gain when needed.
    All channels may be globally set to present either the Preamp or
    Trim controls from the MIXRACK SETUP / Mixer Pref screen.
    Once set, individual channels may be changed from within their
    PREAMP screen.
    These settings are stored in Show memories. The
    Copy/Paste/Reset functions can affect the Preamp, Trim or both
    depending on which SEL keys are used.

    Dynamic FX shaping

    A new DFX (Dynamik FX) button is
    added to all FX. This provides two modes of operation - a Gate
    function to dynamically reduce the FX level for quieter signals, or
    a Duck function to dynamically reduce the FX level for louder
    signals. Examples are dynamic reverbs and delays.

    Tap Tempo on Soft Keys

    Added to the assignment
    options for Soft Keys. Multiple tap keys may be assigned as
    these are linked to specific FX units. Choose whether to display
    the tempo on the associated Soft Key LED.

    RAB2 Option card support

    This firmware supports the
    new RAB2 module which replaces the existing Remote Audio
    module adding slots to allow the fitting of up to two of the new
    digital audio card options. Existing system may be upgraded
    with the new RAB2 module. Card options supported:
    M-ES-V1 EtherSound using early version AVD card
    M-ES-V2 EtherSound using newer AVDM card
    M-ACE Dual port ACE (audio and control over a single cable)
    M-MMO 24 ch ADAT, 16 ch Aviom, 2x 8 ch iDR ports
    M-MADI 64 channel dual port MADI

    iLive Firmware V1.5

    Scene re-ordering

    Lets you re-arrange the 250 Scenes by
    moving, copying, deleting them or clearing their contents. Work
    with single or multiple selections.

    Scene contents list updates

    The ‘Input Channel Mixer’
    item has been further divided into Mutes, Faders, Sends and
    DCA assignment items to allow greater flexibility using partial
    Scenes. Together with the Scene re-ordering function this is a
    powerful addition for theatre productions using multiple scene
    recalls.
    Improvements have also been made to the Scene contents list
    order and item naming.


    More Alt View functions

    You can now choose the
    primary, shifted and Alt View functions of the strip rotary
    encoders, for example to present the channel gains on the
    rotaries.

    Options include:
    PAN Stereo mixes
    BLEND LCRplus main mix LR to C pan
    SUB Main mix with separate sub bass feed
    GAIN/TRIM Follows preamp Surface mode
    DIRECT OUT Channel direct output trim
    These preferences are set from the SURFACE SETUP / Alt View
    Rotary screen.

    Dual inserts on FX

    FX can be inserted on mono or stereo
    channels, and now on two mono channels using the new Dual
    Mono function. For example you can insert a stereo chorus
    across two ganged mono channels.

    Mute Group mode

    Selected DCA groups may be assigned
    as Mute Groups by locking their faders to 0dB. This is set in the
    DCA ROUTING screen.

    RTA peak frequency band display

    The RTA meter
    display both in the screen and on the GEQ on Faders meters
    now displays the dominant frequency band. This is very useful
    while ringing out monitors on a quiet stage, and a great tool for
    learning to identify frequencies.

    Name reset to channel number

    A button is now provided on the PREAMP screen to reset the current name to the
    associated DSP channel number. Name reset is also provided in
    the NAME&COLOUR screen Block select mode.

    PFL Trim

    The AFL Trim function in the PAFL screen has been
    changed to PFL Trim providing up to 12dB attenuation for hot
    PFL signals. This does not affect the PAFL metering.

    Editor Version 1.5 - New Features

    This version adds control which now lets you configure, operate
    and maintain the MixRack without the need for a Surface.

    Editor – Firmware update added

    A MixRack can now have its firmware updated using Editor.
    This makes it possible to
    maintain the firmware of a system without a Surface. Available
    under the Edit menu. Firmware update via Editor is only
    possible from version 1.50 onwards.

    Editor – Custom User Strip frame

    A window can be
    assigned with any number and combination of channel, mix, FX
    and DCA strips. Any number of layers may be created. This lets
    you design your own strip layout for Editor independent of the
    layout of a connected Surface.

    Editor – Global mix assign and pre/post setting All
    assignments may be globally turned on or off, and all sources
    may be globally set pre or post-fader using the right mouse
    menu over the mix master strip.

    Editor – Aux send source

    The right hand mouse menu
    over an Aux master lets you select the global channel source for
    that mix.

    Editor – Access Scene Safes

    A button has been added
    to the bottom of each strip to make channels safe from Scene
    recall. These buttons can be hidden while mixing live if preferred
    using the Options / Channel Options menu.

    Editor – Mute Group mode

    A button has been added to
    the bottom of each DCA strip to convert it to a mute group by
    fixing its fader at 0dB. These buttons can be hidden while mixing
    live if preferred using the Options / Channel Options menu.

    Editor – Persistent selection of PEQ graph view

    If PEQ is set using the left hand toolbar then the channel SEL
    window opens with the Graph view when a channel is selected if
    that was the last PEQ view active.

    Editor – Other features and updates

    Several other features have been added including a PAFL page, TALKBACK,
    MIDI control, Scene confirmation option and Event Log store to
    USB.
    Known bugs have been fixed including those associated with the
    drag-and-drop assignment of Surface strips.

    Gruss
    Sascha Kohl

    Von mit auch ein DANKE! für die Infos.

    Was ich noch bräuchte: Eine P-EQ, mit dem man eine Frequenzweichenfunktion auf den Outs realisieren kann. Denn dazu kommt man derzeit mit dem Hi Cut Band nicht tief genug...

    ich will noch einiges mehr... ;)
    z.b. einen dynamic-EQ, einen pitch-shifter, einen verzerrer - und vor allem eine sinnvolle gesamtübersicht über die zustände der dynamics.

    an der 1.5 version gefallen mir aber schon ein paar sachen, keine bange ;)
    folgendes besonders:
    - die Gains kann man auf "Alt-View" legen
    - RTA peakanzeige
    - dynamic FX shaping
    - 64 kanal MADI karte
    - preamp-sharing
    - szenen einfach verschieben
    - mute-szenen
    - mute-group mode
    - die Editor-aufwertungen

    generell kann ich sagen, das viele meiner wünsche erfüllt wurden, auch schon mit dem letzten update.
    aber wahrscheinlich waren das auch nicht nur meine wünsche...

    mit kollegialen Grüßen
    Wolfgang